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Mandy, aged 23, is
meeting with David along with her mother, Donna (late 40s)
and her father, Jack (early 50s) early in the new year and
are reviewing what is being referred to as 'an anti-anorexic
Christmas' and think ahead for a similar 'anti-anorexic
wedding' of Mandy's older sister, Wendy, who has recently
returned from overseas to get married to Jim.
DE: You were telling me
about your Anti-Anorexic Christmas and we decided to record
this for the League. You told me that 'Thou Shalt Not Relax
or Enjoy The People Around You' was one of Anorexia's
requirements for an Anorexia-Christmas. And Mandy, you went
on to tell me that Anorexia prefers to isolate and seclude
you. And we worked out that 'Thou Shalt Be Imprisoned By
Unworthiness'. How else would Anorexia drive you into the
prison of unworthiness, Mandy, and keep you from connecting
with your family and friends?
Mandy By not indulging in
the festivities and celebrations of Christmas, the eating
and drinking and all that sort of thing.
DE: And how would
Anorexia convince you that you were unworthy of
participating in the family joys and rituals?
Mandy I guess by telling
me that I don't deserve it.
DE: And if you said to
Anorexia: 'Anorexia, I've heard this for a long time now.
I've formed an idea of late that I am worthy. I do deserve
sharing with my family." What would it say back to counter
your new found Anti-anorexic attitudes?
Mandy I guess if I did
indulge and become social and eat and drink with others, it
would try and hit back and make me feel guilty - "You don't
deserve that! How dare you!" That sort of thing.
DE: Say you possessed a
rigorous Anti-Anorexia on this occasion, the zealousness of
a Joan of Arc. And you said: "I am not guilty. I am
innocent!" How would it argue its case against you for your
punishment and torture?
Mandy Isolation. That
would be the quickest way to crack me.
DE: Okay, Anorexia knows
a fair bit about physical as well as psychological torture.
If you were to oppose it, how would you form your argument
that you were innocent of its charges against
you?
Mandy Well, I wouldn't do
it by myself. I would call on other people - recruit allies
- to convince me.
DE: How did you go about
inviting them to take your side rather than Anorexia's side
this Christmas past?
Mandy When they saw me
having a slightly anti-anorexic attitude, they would
acknowledge it by putting some little heart stickers on a
poster in my bedroom. It was for any anti-anorexic episode
or stint, even if it was brief. The poster was at the end of
my bed on the window. And I'd come in and there might be two
more hearts than there were the day before. It used to give
me little bit of a boost. There were just little ....it was
just little. It was an acknowledgment.
Donna: It was just a
heart to say we noticed something that maybe she hadn't been
aware of. And you said that when you were going to bed at
night, that it would make you feel all warm and
fuzzy.
Mandy Yeah!
DE: Did it warm the
anti-anorexic cockles of your heart?
Mandy Yeah, well that was
what we did. That was the project over Christmas. That
helped me get through. Anorexia would hit back at that
telling me mum was being over generous and made me wonder
why she put so many on.
DE: I suppose it would
probably say.
Mandy (takes over) She
only is doing it to make me feel good.
DE: What did you do then
when Anorexia tried to betray your anti-anorexic allies? How
did you undermine its tactics to erase their acknowledgement
of your anti-anorexia?
Mandy Oh, I just tried to
ignore it, I guess.
DE: You ignored
Anorexia's efforts to misinform you?
Mandy Yeah, I tried to.
Or, I got mum and asked her what each heart was for so I
could try to relate the incident or episode back to me.
Sometimes I hadn't been aware of being
anti-anorexic.
Donna: (laughing) And
sometimes mum couldn't remember why the heart had gone there
anyway!
DE: Do you think your
mother is becoming a very astute observer of
anti-anorexia?
Mandy Oh, she has been
for ages.
DE: Just give me one
example of an Anti-anorexic activity that she observed about
you that you wouldn't have observed about yourself if left
to Anorexia's devices?
Mandy David, I'm prettied
worried about the present situation.
DE: I may be wrong so
I'll seek your opinion here. If you could revitalise
Christmas into an anti-anorexic one, could those ideas go
forwards into the present? After all anti-anorexia isn't
restricted to Christmas?
Mandy It can continue! If
it can be done once, it can be done again.
DE: Do you mind my
enthusiasm for such a prospect?
Mandy NO! (emphatically)
DE: Just before we
proceed, what other 'Thou Shalt' would have operated if you
had an anorexic Christmas rather than the anti-anorexic
Christmas you did develop? Can you go back to December 24th
or 25th?
Mandy What else? Can you
remember, mum?
DE: Here is one Julia
told me - 'Thou Shalt get up at 5am on the morning of the
25th, clean the stove, labour all day long and act as a
serving girl?' Did anorexia require that of you - 'Thou
Shalt No Sit At The Table - Thou Shalt Serve
Others'?
Mandy Yah, wait on
people. 'Thou Shalt Not Sit and Relax and Read but DO!' Thou
Shalt not rest the body and mind!'
Jack: 'ThouShalt
Continually Think About What The Next Meal Preparation Is
Going To Be!'
Donna: In other words,
'Thou shalt not allow others to enjoy your
company'.
Mandy Yeah! What else did
you have on the list Mandy?
DE: It certainly sounds
like an interesting anti-anorexic document.
Mandy Yeah, we'll bring
it in next time we come.
DE: Let me read you from
the archives about Julia's first anti-anorexic Christmas to
see if we can all add to the stock of anti-anorexic
'knowledge'. I had met her just before Christmas. Anorexia
had taken her prisoner when she was 19 and kept here there
for the next 11 years. She has given me her permission to
read you this letter.
'Dear Julia:
The following is a
somewhat inadequate summary of our meeting last night. You
regaled me with a stunning series of anti-anorexic
revelations - anti-anorexic in conception, intent and
practice. The deep significance of all that you had to tell
(and I believe if we had more time, you would have informed
me of more and more instances in your life of anti-anorexic
resistance) only dawned on me sometime later. I then started
wondering how you had made all this come about. What I did
notice was that you seemed so clear about your own thoughts,
ideas, pleasures and appetites that you reminded me of
Carly, who described her anti-anorexia as like coming out of
a fog into the clear. All this allowed me to form the
impression that you were far more substantial as a person
that Anorexia would have had you believe.
And somehow or other, you
went on the offensive against Anorexia and not only lived to
tell the tale but escaped relatively unscathed. If you had
sought my opinion (and I am glad you had't) I would have
timidly suggested reconnaissance or spying missions against
Anorexia. You tell me that Anorexia got in a few guilt sneak
punches when I would have thought it would have backlashed
you with guilt.
Now allow me to go over
your account. You informed me that you were trained that
women should always be self-effacing, and in a manner of
speaking, rub out their accomplishments, achievements,
abilities and competencies. When I asked what would have
become of your mother if she hadn't gone to the same
metaphorical 'school', you said she would have been "an
amazing person". And I'm sure you are right. So how was it
over Christmas, a time renowned for women-giving and
women-feeding of others,that you so brazenly confronted
Anorexia? Somehow or other, you tell me you gave 'service'
the slip and refused to go along with Anorexia compelling
you to become what you referred to as the "dynamic drudge" -
the role for which you are so well know. For example, you
told me that in the past you have taken over all the
responsibilities for cleaning, preparing and organising the
Christmas meal. This time you didn't. By contrast, you did
your share and your share alone. In fact, you even found
time to play with the kids, almost as if you were flying
directly in the face of women-duty and obligation. How was
this possible?
You tell me this has had
immediate effects in your sister relationship. You tell me
your sister is starting to appreciate you and is finding you
"more fun", "intelligent" and that there is "more of me".
You also commented that you are more available as a person
to your daughter rather than serving as a dutiful mother.
This has meant you two are having more "quality
time".
In addition to
deconstructing anorexia, you have started reconstructing
your own life out of the ashes of Anorexic devastation, a
life Anorexia took from you as penance when you fell
pregnant at 19. Then I asked you to tell me about you before
Anorexia. I was very startled by your revelations of the
pre-anorexic, Julia, a young women who believed she was very
entitled to a life of her own and to be her own 'me' rather
than being pressed into the service of others. You put this
down to your citizenship and the Human Rights Commission.
Still, even then you felt you had to "hide my abilities from
everybody" and instead got conscripted into slavishness and
selflessness.
I was confused though by
some comments of yours at the end of our meeting. I had
thought that your daughter's pregnancy and birth confined
you to a career of duty, obligation and service to others.
By contrast, you informed me that you were providing for
your 11 year old daughter a different sort of training than
yours, your mothers' and perhaps her mother. Did you start
your anti-anorexia in relation to your daughter? If so, was
your mother-daughter relationship the site in which you
inaugurated your resistance to Anorexia, and those practices
and beliefs that are behind it? I admit to a great deal of
interest here and look forward to discussing this with you
at our next meeting. What are your thoughts here?
Yours
anti-anorexically,
David."
DE: Do you think it is
significant that on the occasion of Christmas that you put
up such resistance? It's the most unlikely time, I would
have thought.
Donna: You're
right.
DE: Did either you, Jack
or you Donna get a bit Anti-anorexic over Christmas by any
chance?
Jack: I think that's part
of the answer. Perhaps there was a supportiveness that made
it a bit easier for Mandy.
Donna: For all of us. I
think we supported each other. There was nothing that was
like 'Thou shalt always preplan, try and control what's in
the environment'. That was another thing we all opposed.
Mandy likes to have everything in a box, like what we are
going to do every five minutes of the day. She wanted to
know everything exactly....nothing could sort of be
spontaneous. And we tried to turn it around and every time
she started to do this...this control, I'd say - 'I'm not
interested. We'll just let it go and when it happens, it
happens".
DE: What did you think
when your mother sided with spontaneity, play and delight
rather than schedule and boring-ness?
Mandy Well, anorexically,
I didn't appreciate it. I used to find it really hard but
did deal with it.
DE: If you just imagine
you were having that conversation in your mind and the voice
of anorexia was speaking to you and told you to tell your
mum - 'Look, we've got to have the recipe and the menu all
sorted out. And we have to eat at exactly six o'clock and
the potatoes have to be ready at 6:15 and the pudding has to
be done by 7:30". And your mum replied - "I just think
things will get done when they get done. And I don't really
want to live according to a schedule. I want to live
according to fun". What would anorexia say about your mother
on such an occasion?
Mandy Oh probably she was
an enemy.
DE: And you should do
what to her?
Mandy Oh, get angry and
resentful, I guess. Try to make her feel guilty or
something.
DE: If Anorexia was
operating through you, would it say something like - 'Mum,
you know you can't do this. It's just not right. This is
improper. This won't be a PERFECT Christmas?"
Jack: No, it wouldn't
encourage Mandy to say that. It would be through her
actions, wouldn't it?
Donna:
Probably.
Jack: It would say to her
- "Look, your mother is not conforming to having everything
done on time. You'd better go and start peeling the
potatoes."
Jack: Normally, in that
scenario Mandy would race off and start doing these
things.
DE: And would she then
withdraw and make you very aware that she's upset doing your
work?
Donna: Oh yes.
DE: Can I ask, Mandy -
what do you think people at your Christmas would have
preferred - to talk with you or be served by you?
Mandy Oh, talk with me, I
think.
DE: Why would they want
to talk with you?
Mandy Because people feel
unrelaxed about me getting up and doing all the work when
they are sitting around doing nothing.
DE: Do you think they
feel guilty?
Mandy Yeah.
DE: Donna and Jack, do
you have to compete with her to do more
labour...?
Donna: To stop her doing
it and making her weigh less.
DE: Is that how Anorexia
operates here? I"m just trying to see through it.
Mandy Yeah.
DE: What effect is it
having on you discussing how Anorexia tried to enter into
your family's Christmas and didn't?
Mandy I'm pretty upset
about my sister's forthcoming wedding.
DE: Has Anorexia pressed
you into service of the perfect wedding?
Mandy It's oppressed me
into feeling guilty about not making it as perfect for Wendy
as it could be, I guess. And I've spent so much time over
the last couple of years trying to score points to be
recognised in Wendy's eyes and I keep on falling short. And
since Wendy has returned from overseas, the Anorexia has got
worse.
DE: If you measure
yourself against her, do you suspect that you will always
find yourself wanting?
Mandy I think at the
moment, it's just the stress of the whole situation. It's
really got to me. I want to walk out of here feeling a bit
more positive about everything. I may be putting too many
expectations on you, I don't know.
DE: Here's a dilemma for
you and your family - whether this will we an anorexic
wedding in which one daughter gets married and the other
daughter gets buried? Or an anti-anorexic wedding? I think
you are ready for such a prospect but I think you will have
to talk to Wendy and Jim about this.
Donna: Wendy actually
asked me to talk about it here.
Mandy Oh, the stress in
our family is incredible.
DE: Do you want to take
this wedding back to the drawing board and draw up an
anti-anorexic wedding? What about thinking back to your
anti-anorexic.....
Mandy
CHRISTMAS!
DE: No time would be more
hazardous for Anorexia to deal to women than Christmas time.
And I think if you can undo that, you can undo this anorexic
wedding. There's a lot of possibility here.
Mandy Well, can I make an
anti-anorexic suggestion before it goes completely out of my
mind. Just talking about this, I feel like I'm ready to jump
off a cliff. It'd be so much easier. So it's the only
anti-anorexic suggestion I have and I'm afraid to say it
because anorexia is taking over. I know we are trying to
decide on what's a good bottle of champagne for the wedding.
Have you still got some left?
Donna: Mmmh.
Mandy The suggestion I
have is that if Wendy suggested we talk about it - and you
think Jim should be involved - that we take the bottle of
bubbly and we go out somewhere for dinner.
DE: What a good
idea!
Mandy All I could think
of was dollar signs and how much the wedding is going to
cost and how much fat there will be.
DE: Why shouldn't the
preparations be fun?
Mandy The anorexic part
of me is saying - No, that's not a good idea because I
already had a good idea today and I had a huge ice-cream
yesterday which I've got to make up for. And I've had so
much fat today and I only have high fat breakfasts left and
everything is coming up.
DE: Jack and Donna, what
do you think?
Jack: We bought five
bottles last week to try out for the toast and
things.
DE: Why not drink them
all?
Donna: We're going
to!
DE: Mandy, what do you
think Anorexia would think about you and your mum, dad,
Wendy and Jim going out and really laughing about
this?
Mandy Well, Anorexia's
getting to me already. You can see what it's been doing. I
mean, I was enjoying my job, finding it stimulating and
knowing I could enjoy it a lot more. And now I'm feeling
cold and I'm finding food so hard. And sometimes I do quite
well and mum and dad will acknowledge that. But then they
will say - for example, mum said the other day that I had
been at home for 2 years now since my last breakdown and I'm
really no further ahead. Mum, I don't know if you thought
about that rationally but comments such as those really cut
me up completely. And I said back to her - "Well, I mean
I;ve qualified as a professional; I've got a job; I've got a
care; or I've been overseas." If they aren't four things
I've done in the past two years then I'll be
fucked!'
DE: Do you think you are
going to have to allow that other people can get frustrated
by anorexia as well as you?
Mandy Yeah, I think I've
been very busy with my job; Dad's busy; and the wedding.
We've lost the lines of communication we had.
DE: I see! Could I also
say something about you here today which I think is pretty
novel. It's the first time I think I've never heard you
argue for yourself.
Mandy Mmh...I think
you're right.
DE: It's pretty striking,
isn't it?
Mandy Mmmh.
DE: You said - "Look, I
really am getting somewhere. I've really done all these
things. I want you to take some notice of me". I know they
do notice, but you're developing your own argument for
yourself and your own life.
Jack: That's quite
strong, isn't it?
Mandy It's
anti-anorexic!
Jack: Yah, anti-anorexic
alright.
DE: Would you also
accept, Mandy that apart from even the more obvious things
that you acknowledge about yourself - for example, the
developments over the past two years - career, employment,
graduation, travel, would you also agree that this is a bit
of a first for you to have the pride to actually speak that
out?
Mandy Yah, I guess I was
getting defiant. I was trying to tell the Anorexic mum to
basically f.... off. Yeah, that was wrong and how dare
anorexia take over and blind mum from seeing how I was an
anti-anorexic.
Donna: That's right. I
did make those comments and then I thought about it and
thought - 'that was stupid'. I'm only human and do have down
days like anyone else.
DE: Yah...yah.
Jack: There is so much
frustration and all sorts of tension at the
moment.
Mandy Mum and I are
starting to have fights and she has started apologising and
feeling guilty for it. Those are signs that things aren't
right.
Jack: It's so much better
to have all this coming out, Mandy, rather than bottling it
up. You've lifted the lid off the kettle that's been
simmering away there for weeks.
Mandy But I now feel very
panicky because I now feel very vulnerable and scared you
know.
DE: Do you feel you've
....(Mandy interrupts)
Mandy I feel that the
vice has lifted a bit. But I feel scared and very vulnerable
because Anorexia is starting to oppress us. THIS MEANS WE
HAVE TO OPPOSE ANOREXIA. I think what's happened is that
there is no warmth in our family at the moment and because
of that anorexia thinks - 'Great isolation, coldness'. We
get up in the morning; we don't talk, there's no warmth or
cuddles...
DE: Has your home been
turned into a business (interrupted)
Jack: Machine?
Yeah.
Donna: Yes.
DE: Is this to do with
the preparations for the wedding?
Mandy Yes, it's only
three weeks away.
Donna: No, it's not just
the wedding. I think it's a combination of things. Wendy's
starting a new job; They're looking for a house. Jim is
starting a new job. Jack is spending hours at the office.
Mandy is acting against Anorexia. And here I am in the
middle and I'm obviously failing to keep the whole lot
afloat. But the fact is I don't want to.
DE: Can I say, Donna,
from my way of thinking, if you assume or are given
responsibility for sorting all this out
(interrupted)
Donna: I'll go
crackers.
DE: What's wrong with the
men taking some responsibility here to see that a woman
isn't murdered in their own home? Why shouldn't the
responsibility be shared around?
Donna: Especially in the
year of Women's Suffrage. No it should be.
Mandy It should
be.
DE: Donna, why is all the
responsibility falling upon your shoulders? Mandy, do you
feel you have to take the burdens off her shoulders? Are you
feeling guilty because your mother's going to go under? And
then will she feel guilty because now you are easy prey for
anorexia?
DM: That's something
we've got to look into!
Mandy We are going under.
Mum's health is going under.
Donna: Could we come back
again soon even though Jack will be overseas?
DE: Yeah,
sure.
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